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| | Par:- Iqbal Kalla
On 21/01/2011 |
Dès qu’a éclaté l’affaire Michaela Harte, tous les documents ayant trait à cette triste histoire sur lexpress.mu ont été submergés de commentaires, nos lecteurs, en particulier ceux vivant à l’étranger, disant surtout leur honte d’être Mauriciens…
Ce sentiment révèle des aspects peu réjouissants de la nature humaine. Ceux de nos compatriotes qui vivent en Irlande se sentent agressés par l’attitude des gens du pays à leur égard. Soit ils sont stupidement rongés par une culpabilité mal placée, d’où leur honte ; soit ce sont ces Irlandais qui devraient avoir honte de s’en prendre à des innocents pour ce crime atroce commis par deux ou trois imbéciles.
Un de nos lecteurs, qui signe James G. Gallen, ne peut que nous laisser admiratifs devant l’ouverture d’esprit et la grandeur d’âme dont il fait preuve : «I should like the people of Mauritius to know, that I, one Irishman, do not believe in collective blame. I do believe in the good heartedness of the Mauritian people in general. Unfortunately Mauritians in Ireland may be targeted by Irish with racist tendencies. I say “sorry” to you for that. As for the alleged perpetrators of the crime I wish them fair and compassionate justice. If they are guilty, and there are extenuating circumstances, I hope they are taken into consideration. If they are not guilty, naturally I hope they are found so.»
Ceci dit, nous avons quand même des raisons d’avoir honte à Maurice.
Honte de voir que les meurtriers de Michaela Harte comme beaucoup d’autres employés d’hôtel se laissent aller à de telles extrémités, attirés par l’argent facile.
Honte d’apprendre qu’alors que ces meurtriers essayaient de dérober quelques milliers de roupies, d’autres, des gens au pouvoir mus par une cupidité insatiable, n’auraient rien trouvé de mieux que de vendre leur clinique à l’Etat. Et pas pour des clopinettes… Les Rs 48 millions qu’a reçus le Sun Trust en janvier 2004 ayant indiqué la voie à suivre depuis
Honte de découvrir que notre Premier ministre nous a pris pour des imbéciles le 21 décembre dernier, jouant sur la fibre nationaliste à propos des Chagos pour essayer de détourner notre attention de la hausse des prix. Un mois plus tard, rien n’a été entrepris auprès du Tribunal international de la mer.
Honte de constater que Reza Issack, qui nous avait pourtant habitués à plus de discernement en tant qu’homme politique, n’a rien trouvé de mieux que de prendre la défense de personnes qui avouent eux-mêmes agir dans l’illégalité à Rose-Hill. Ainsi que l’atteste la déclaration suivante d’un marchand ambulant à lexpress.mu : «Certes, nous sommes dans l’illégalité, mais les autorités devraient comprendre notre douleur»
Effectivement, nous n’avons aucune raison d’avoir honte d’être Mauriciens à cause d’un crime commis par des idiots cupides.
Mais nous n’avons aucune raison non plus d’être fiers de l’exemple que nous donnent ceux qui nous gouvernent…
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| lamy mahadeo | | | on a le gouvernement qu'on merite! | | | DJ BOBO | | | A Chitchat: Going by your logic CHATO nobody should be doing time because of the risk of sending innocents to jail not so much as death row. By dint of your logic it is impossible to do justice to the victims ever. Ooops someone got killed and we're just sorry but our hands are tied owing to FEAR of doing justice. Innocent until proven guilty is still the case isn't it ? If the police cannot prove conclusively with DNA support that someone is guilty then you no death row. Sounds fair. So Is the US a leader ? Or are u looking up to them as inferior ? Did Gandhi look up to the British as leaders to tell them that they were wrong ? Did Mandela do the same ? U sound like a lackey yourself if you believe Mauritius or any other countries cannot lead ! It's funny u mentioned only the US in your examples CHICHI...U GET IT ? U would swallow their stool because you look up to them ! Why didn't you mention countries where death penalty works and harsh punishment is a deterrent ? But no the US & european model are failures and are failing their OWN citizens to start with when they no longer can provide justice to the victims as well as a deterrent.They are giving up on their citizens ! It's the way they applied capital punishment which is all wrong...If they were not so proud they would ask countries of the middle east as well as China help on the matter...The level of crime in the US is way too high you should know better CHATO...What are they going to do about it...talk to the criminals and give them incentives or say we are sorry we killed some of your flock ? Maybe Obama is a softy and a weak like you CHEETO that's why they are building up a case on abolishing death row. But you should know better that it makes no sense of abolishing death row on one hand and allowing free sales of guns and ammunition on the other and you tell me that these real BOZOS are leaders ?Their models no longer work Cheeto face it they stink ! What you are agreeing with is simply the failure of their APPLICATION of death penalty and INABILITY to defend the victims and to do JUSTICE and provide a deterrent. Their MODELS CHEETO BOY ! THEIRS ! | | | Honky Tonk | | | -Whether death penalty is deterrent or not is irrelevant because we'll never know how many crimes have been avoided due to the fear of capital punishment.Usually many criminals are very well known by the police from a long time before.Most people have a natural fear of death- it's a trait we have to think before we act. If we do not think about it consciously, we all think about it unconsciously. Death is an experience that cannot be experienced and ends all experience because it is unknown as it is certain, death is universally feared.. The life of a man should be sacred to eachother. | | | chitchat | | | DJ BOBO, you've said enough to display yourself as a BOZO, (get it?). I'm most obliged to the editor for allowing to shed some light on your misconception. There is a chance that a person is innocent and is wrongly convicted. There are cases where individuals were released after being
given the death sentence, because they were proved innocent. There are also cases where a person's innocence was proved after he was put to death. Crimes are prevalent in countries where capital punishment exists. Many states in the Us are considering abolishing the death penalty since many death row inmates are being released after serving 10/15 years. May I suggest you have a look at the Web www.Former US attorneys Thompson and Webb but I'm sure BOZO knows best since he said that the"US and Europe they are Passé and cliché", does he mean Mauritius now leads they should follow?
I am very appreciative of your response to my comments, many, many thanks. - THE END. | | | Jack | | | -Mo ti pou content pose ene ti question : quand peuple Moris pou réagir couma bann Tunisiens? Nou pou contign laisse banne Ramgoolam, Jugnauth, Bérenger etc contign couillonne nous même? Pou sa raison la nous bisin gagne honte, parski nou laisse nou diviser même... | | | DJ BOBO | | | To the softhearted Chitchat: Take another look at what I said and read it aloud for better understanding. Did I speak of cure or deterrent to crime ? I spoke of doing justice to the victims first and foremost ! What deterrent has got to do when a crime has already been committed ? There's usually a corpse and a victim after a crime you know? After a crime there should be JUSTICE come what may ! Besides now that we have DNA technology one can go ahead with the re-introduction of capital punishment. If proven guilty beyond doubt after DNA test and criminal investigation you fry ! No deterrent here only justice ! Deterrent starts at home, inculcated at schools and work places and NGOs and what not etc...After that to the gallows ! You get a red card and you are out of the field ! For the drug dealers no pity as well sent them straight to the gas chamber ! That's how crime should be treated ! No cushy mushy feelings of empathy for the drug mafiosi ! And yes stop looking up to the US or Europe as role model for one moment, it's so passé and cliché ! | | | Baltazar | | | -Iqbal, c'est une question de morale pour ceux qui croient avoir le droit de voler pour améliorer leur bourse et ceux qui les tolèrent. Il y a beaucoup qui justifient leurs actes criminels comme, ce qu'ils ne possèdent pas, ils peuvent l'avoir en volant suivant l'exemple qui vient d'en haut i.e la caisse noire d'Air Mauritius.Et quand ils sont fichés, ils deviennent populaires. Ils n'ont pas honte. La tentation est plus forte quand le butin est gros on est plus rassuré qu'on s'en sortira sans peine.C'est le voleur de poule qui a honte et il purge sa peine plus long. Comparons le motif du meurtre de Hélène Lam Po Tang et celui de Michaela Harte et essayons de juger les présumés meurtriers. Et le sort de Sir Harry Tirvengadum, est-il réglé ? Ce sont les coupables qui doivent avoir honte et ceux qui les tolèrent. | | | chitchat | | | To the ambivalent DJ BOBO, there's no statistics to prove that criminal punishment is a deterrent or cure for crime. Capital punishment is legalised murder, it allows the state to kill and hide behind legality of public legal vengence. The DNA is currently revealing that some innocents have
been KILLED while the murderers are still alive. The Jury (members of the public) find the accused guilty and the judge passes sentence. The general public and a couple of top politicians have asked for the murderers of Michaela Harte to be hanged. Think of that happening to an innocent, but BOBO this might make you throw up. Last week a group of 65 people that includes some Illinois top judges sent a letter to Governor Quinn asking him to sign legislation abolishing the death penalty as the death penalty is"an instrument of coercion" to get guilty pleas has led to false convictions.
The report by Thomas Frisbie of the CHICAGO SUN TIMES can be seen in its entirety on the web WWW.
why death row in the us. CLICK on Former US Attorney Thompson and Webb
| | | DJ BOBO | | | The aim of capital punishment is not to reduce crime level but to do JUSTICE to the victim first and foremost. Petty thiefs are not going to be hanged and are out there hurting and maiming innocent people of this country. Getting a long time sentence or even capital punishment is not about reducing crime rate people. It's NOT about lowering statistics on crime, it's about doing justice to the victims FIRST and FOREMOST. I am for capital punishment and for long term sentences for petty criminals because JUSTICE must be done FIRST and FOREMOST in the case of any crime. Give people justice and Mauritius will get back on track, give criminals an inch of reprieve and you get recidivist on your hands ! It's time to get tough Mr Prime Minister, let us vote for a referendum on this, I'm sure of the result already ! Give people justice and criminals a hard time ! Punish those who deserve it...This is what ordinary citizen should be concerned about end of story. No more excuses or blaming the society for doing evil should be tolerated anymore for the situation has gone out of hand with that kind of mentality. ZERO TOLERANCE FOR ANY CRIME ! Drug addicts should be put in specialised jail too(They are both criminals and sick ) for consumption of drugs instead of just treating them in hospitals and tolerating their lifestyle ! Let them have a police record for often they steal to get their dose ! Let Jameel Peerally make another apologetic movie on drug addicts but I personally don't buy into the hypocrisy ! Drugs are illegal as well as drug addicts and the cartel ! Responsibility to live an upright life rest upon one's own shoulder and drug users shouldn't be excused ! That should be the motto for upcoming election ! Si on doit avoir honte c'est de laisser les criminels sévir dans notre pays et croiser les bras et se dire qu'on ne peut pas avoir leur peau parce qu'on est des chics types et tout ! | | | Gil Xavier | | | J'ai parcouru cet article "en diagonal", et je dois dire que je suis en accord avec votre réflexion Monsieur Iqbal.
L'objet de mon message est de fustiger ce raccourci journalistique qui consiste, ici et ailleurs, à associer le nom de la victime au mot affaire. Bien cordialement. | | | PLOUM PLOUM- DEATH PENALTY IN PARADISE | | | Death Penalty Debate in Paradise
Debate about the death penalty always generates and stirs strong emotions. Against a background of rising violent crimes such as murders and rapes, it inherently raises profound questions because above all, it is a question of life and death crimes impact on everybody's lives. The current populist call for the restoration of hanging illustrates the blind and irrational emotionality the subject arouses. The debate gets so emotional and volatile that any sense of rationality and perspective is rapidly lost in thin air.
The situation is compounded by Politicians of all parties intrinsically adopting a higher moral ground. It is a daily occurrence to hear politicians talking tough on crime. It is as if one cannot get elected to political office unless one espouses what they feel the public wants to hear about crime, which is "get tough on crime- Lock them up and throw away the keys”.
But when the current debate on capital punishment becomes politically driven by design or otherwise, then we end up in a situation which is described by experts at South Bank University and the London School of Economics that "a politically driven response leaves less time for work on long-term strategies such as community policing and crime prevention”. Another Expert stated that "the political debate is locked in to the tough on crime rhetoric. Many politicians feel they have to be seen to be tough on crime as a measure of their political virility."
In view of the current debate on Death Penalty arising from the murder of Michaela Harte, perhaps giving the wrong impression that some lives are more important than others, we need to address 4 Fundamental questions:
1. Is “an Eye for an Eye” the right policy to administer to certain category of convicted criminals making the State also a Murderer on behalf of Society given that there are no scientific or societal consensus on what exactly is right for such criminals?
2. Is there “Beyond reasonable doubt that the death penalty has a discernible DETERRENT effect ON FUTURE MURDER RATES OR OTHER VIOLENT CRIMES? There is currently no scientific evidence in favour of the deterrent claim.
3. Can we guarantee, again beyond reasonable doubt, that we shall NEVER SEND the WRONG PERSON TO THE GALLOWS? Even in Countries where Forensic DNA technology is well advance, no such guarantee is available. []Which is why EU countries are against Capital Punishment]?
4. Given the state of our Criminal Justice System, and the Communal mindset of our Society, can the Death Penalty be applied in an IRREPROACHABLE EQUITABLE MANNER that will be “Communal-free”? In other words, would one community feel “Targeted “because of their Colour, religion or Social status?
Or perhaps another community using all their economic or political muscle to secure “special treatment” or to circumvent the system. Remember that the system will never be mechanical, there will always be the requirement that a President, or PM or Governor ( as in some US States), needing to give the final Approval? Have we produced such Presidents and PMs so far that can be so trusted?
Remember the era of SAJ, when one community in particular felt being targeted according to them?
Conclusion: Although the call for death Penalty is the easiest of all options, there seem little, if any, of any rational behind such call. The call is also being made within a surge of rising crimes of ALL categories, but above all, within an abject failure of our Criminal Justice System (namely the Police and the Prisons and to some extent our Judiciary). Should we not, improve our Prisons, equip our Police ( in DNA Forensic techniques, more training for Officers, better recruitment based on competence, better PROACTIVE strategies and NOT REACTIVE, and better accountability ( how about a Competent INTERIOR MINISTER to manage the Police).
It therefore requires that we proceed with careful moral reasoning.
PLOUM PLOUM
| | | QWERTY | | | Pou Moris dressé, faudré ene nouvelle race de politiciens lev latet. Ramgoolam-Bérenger c blanc bonnet, bonnet blanc. Moi mo souhait trouve ban dimoune couma Yvan Martial, Mohammad Vayid, Jacques Bizllal, Sheila Bunwaree, Sunil Banhymandhub entre autres au parlement. | | | pyn | | | -Une anecdote suffira. Un Russe disait pis que pendre sur les Americains en général.L'Americain lui demanda s'il y avait des prisons en Russie. -Oui, repond le Russe. -Quelle est la nationalite de ceux qui s'y trouvent? demande l'Americain.
Y a-t-il des prisons en Irlande? | | | Patrick | | | -La mort de Michaella, bizin fer nou remet en cause notre system de formation. Eski nou pas bsisn ena ene test psychologique inclus dans nou bane formation? C'est vrai ki notre orgeuil de mauricien prend ene sacrée coup avec sa bane problem la mais fodré pas ki nou zete la baignoire et le bébé avec. | | | Amine Mamode | | | -Je suis un partisan ferme de la peine de mort pour les criminels, les barons de la drogue et les violeurs, et la main coupée des voleurs. La loi doit protéger les honnêtes gens contre les pourris de la société. | | | democrate | | | -Il ne suffit pas d’avoir honte. Encore faut-il avoir le sens de l’indignation. Or, les Mauriciens ont perdu toute faculté de critique et toute faculté d’indignation. Ils se laissent embobiner par les thuriféraires du pouvoir qui banalisent la criminalité et justifient la dilapidation de fonds publics. Des politiciens à Maurice ont trouvé le moyen astucieux de faire de l’argent : construire des bâtiments et les revendre ensuite à l’Etat à des prix faramineux. Ou louer des terrains à bail à l’Etat pour les revendre à des investisseurs étrangers pour une fortune, laquelle est déposée dans une banque suisse sous un prête-nom. Ou encore construire des bâtiments qui sont loués à prix d’or à l’Etat en vertu d’un contrat béton que même le judiciaire est incapable de remettre en question. Les transactions entre parties liées deviennent monnaie courante à Maurice au défi de la transparence et de l’éthique des affaires. Ce même gouvernement qui permet le pillage de fonds publics a le culot de prêcher la « corporate social responsibility » au secteur privé. En Tunisie, la famille de l’ex-président Ben Ali rendra compte devant la justice du recel de biens publics. En Haïti, l’ex-dictateur Jean Claude Duvalier vient d’être accusé formellement de crimes contre l’humanité après 25 ans. Par contre, dans notre île paradisiaque (cela s’entend pour les gouvernants), aucune poursuite contre des politiciens véreux n’est envisageable. Il y a une majorité crédule qui se dit qu’il vaut mieux être volé par les siens que par d’autres. Et l’institution chargée de réprimer la fraude et la corruption a la frousse de gros requins. | | | Starbright | | | -Maybe we should consider the death penalty murder _murder, like all crimes, is a breach of social code,a breach of the rules upon which some societies have more or less agreed.As long as we elect civilian representatives to impose the death penalty, it's very difficult for us to say tthat it constitutes murder in any commonly sense of the word.. Murder is defined as the " unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another".The death penalty is indeed premeditated but it's lawful and it's not the only example of the lawful premeditated killing of a human person.Only the killers of Michaela know what they had in mind. Did they have any plan B if the plan A should fail? It could have been a premeditated murder no doubt. | | | Ouyouf | | | Pouquoi croyez-vous donc ai-je demandé à mes enfants de faire du pays où ils ont fait leurs études universitaires leur pays d'adoption??? Je constate que beaucoup d'autres parents le font aussi et cela transcendant les clivages communautaires... | | | arouille | | | Eh bein! Je n’ai pas un brin de honte pour ce qui s'est passé, pourtant j'aime profondément mon ile et je regrette amèrement ce qu'elle est devenue à cause de gros requins obnubilés par l'argent!
C’était la goutte qui a fait déborder le lagon! Il fallait que ça arrive pour que les autorités réagissent ou agissent (un minimum!), bouger enfin leur petit doigt, à force de pousser, pousser, de mettre les touristes derrière les murs, tout leur donner sur place pour qu'ils ne dépensent RIEN ailleurs, des gros sous qui ne reviennent qu'à l'hôtel, cela allait certainement éclater au grand jour un de ces 4!
C'est une bien triste histoire, mais nous connaissons tous Maurice, nous savons ce qui s'y passe chaque jour, pourquoi faire croire aux touristes autre chose? Pourquoi leur en mettre plein la vue quand derrière cela tout n'est pas si rose? Quand même les Mauriciens ne se sentent pas en sécurité sur l'ile, pourquoi faire croire autre chose aux touristes???
J'espère que cela servira de leçon aux autorités concernées, qu'ils prendront les mesures nécessaires et que l'image de ce monde "magique" que les hôtels veulent donner d'eux mêmes, auxquels tares peu de mauriciens accèdent (nou trop faye!) se réveillent et descendent un peu de leur piédestal! C’est de cela qu'on devrait avoir honte: que les autorités diffusent une image fausse édulcoré de ce que l'ile Maurice n'est pas et ne sera plus jamais!
| | | JP | | | -It is well said Chitchat. Agree entirely. I would add: Le monde n'a jamais cessé de tourner en raison des crimes diverses ailleurs et quelques uns à Maurice. Cela n'excuse pas pour autant les criminels punissables, qui qu'ils soient dans une société civilisée.
La peine de mort n'a jamais été un "deterrent to crime".
Quant à la référence à la Honte, elle ne tient pas la route, Iqbal, malgré l'appréciation de ce que vous avancez. Car la honte on le ressent que quand l'on se regarde dans un miroir par rapport à ce que l'on a fait ou omis de faire soi-même. Le meilleur juge c'est soi-même, chacun individuellement. Car à lui, nous ne pouvons mentir.
| | | Naive | | | -I have never been ashamed and never will be, of being Mauritian and I live abroad. When one of our compatriots was among the victims of the underground bombing, I did not start blaming the whole of UK nor did I start hating my colleagues who are of the same religion as the perpetrators.
What I am ashamed of is how consecutive governments have taken the Mauritians for a ride and keep doing so. What I am ashamed of, is how the rate of crime has gradually increased and how Mauritians do not feel safe in their own country and no politicians seem to be willing to do anything about it. I wish there was one daring journalist who would start investigating where has all the money that has been poured into Mauritius over the years gone : the sugar industry, the free zone, tourism, offshore tax haven, IRS accommodation, foreigners encouraged to come and live there provided they bring a minimum amount which to Mauritius' standard is a huge amount, Mauritians abroad regularly sending money to support their relatives ... the list would be too long. But yet again, almost 43 years post independence, our government whilst boasting to the world out there that we are ruled as a democracy wants to impose restrictions on the freedom of the press.
The tragic event at the Legends has not got only some 5 persons involved but a lot of politicians and others who have been put in position of trust over the years by the electorate but not been very interested in the population as well as the hotel management in general who seem to have been willing to keep cashing on 'the paradise island' notion whilst dealing with crimes committed by their staff in the shape of burglary, quiet. The kind of poverty reported every now and then in the odd article is incredible.
I fear that one day people would say 'enough is enough' and the country will go similar way to Tunisia.
I sincerely hope that it will not come to that and that the recent event has been a wake-up call.
I am proud to be a Mauritian. | | | chitchat | | | -There might be some Mauritians in Ireland and the Irish Republic but not many. Mauritians whether Creoles or Indo-Mauritians are "classified" as ASIANS due to our physiognomy, if (we) Mauritians feel targeted for abuse due to the murder of Michaela please spare a thought for the Sri-lankans,
Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, Indians and others who look like us. An Irish or English person cannot differentiate a Mauritian from a Sri-Lankan or Bangladeshi without introduction. A Creole would feel insulted if s/he were mistaken for a Bangladeshi, the same applies in reverse, I've read a
few Irish papers on the Internet, I've yet to come across a bad comment about Mauritius and its people." A nation in mourning, Every tiny chapel would burst to the seams during a requiem mass for the victim while they are half full at Easter and Christmas. The honeymooners paradise with
all its lovely flora, crystal turquoise sea ans snow-white sands is under the darkest cloud" A few comments we should be thankful and proud of, but many Mauritians would rather stick to the picture they have painted and are adamant that the reintroduction of capital punishment would put an end to further murders. They cannot uderstand that the death penalty would not be applicable for the murder of Michaela. Murder was not premeditated, the perpetrators panicked and it would appear the use of excessive force killed. | | | gemm | | | -Le monde serait sans doute meilleur si chacun se demandait de temps en temps: 'Et moi, qu'ai-je fait ou que n'ai-je pas fait qui mérite que j'en ai honte?' . Et que suite à cette reflexion, on rectifie le tir ou au moins que l'on essaie. Mais c'est tellement plus commode de vomir sur les autres. | | | masopust | | | -Notre leader de l'opposition reste sur la touche pour le moment attendant que le Ptr envoie le MSM dans l'opposition et intègre le MMM au gouvernement. A ce moment avec une république où le président aura plus de pouvoirs, le fils de la nation prendra le poste de président et celui du premier ministre par le leader du MMM. On prend les mêmes et on recommence et entre-temps Maurice s'écroule sous les augmentations de prix et de manque d'eau alors que les pouvoirs occultes s'en donnent à coeur joie. Cela risque de se terminer par une bagarre généralisée si des groupements idiots comme la VOH veulent se mettre à la place des forces de l'ordre. Attention vous autres, on joue avec le feu en ce moment et ce qui adviendra, on l'aura voulu !! | | | Reno | | | -Ceux qui nous gouvernent…et le nouveau Cernéen et ses susermayo (dixit Bizlall) des barons - comme ce Reza Uteem qui tire sur tout le monde sauf qui vous savez. Du MMM tout craché quoi.... Honte à vous. Vive Jack, Ashok, Jooneed... | | | Nash2 | | | -Don't blame the government.The real shame is the bunch of geriatric morons in the opposition. Après opposition loyale astere nu ena opposition veiller seke. That's the real shame in this country. | | | kumsi | | | -Hey Iqbal not troubled by our glorious Berenger? | | | Pratima | | | -Me for one don't have anything in common with these Morons. I have one question : when will the Mauritian people react like the extraordinary Tunisians? There, it was also a question of politicians in power making money... | | | dan | | | -Une seule phrase : Bravo pour cet article ! | | | jacky | | | -Iqbal nous, moi surtout, vivons une periode où nous nous délectons de ce genre de prouesse jamais atteint auparavant par nos dirigeants. Quand chef la ene specialiste “kass contour” digne d’un personnage de cirque par son manque de sérieux, que devrons-nous attendre de la part de ses lieutenants. Comme je le dis bien souvent, entretemps on se tape de la bonne merde. Tu continueras ton analyse, clairvoyant dans celui-ci, et nous, nous continuerons a nous exprimer devant ces faits. Lepep ine decide, nous bizin subir. Pli zoli c’est nous Leader de l’Opposition. Autan de faits accablant et aucune demonstration afin d’affaiblir ce regime. Que voyons nous, nada. Line ankyloser. Maurice, c'est une honte. | |
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